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94 Responses to “Soul Eater muxed releases stopping”

1. Justin on 03 Dec 2008 at 11:10 am #

   Q: Does this mean you’re dropping ?

   A: Yes.

   That part of the Q & A confuses me
   A typo?, or Maybe I am reading it wrong

   IMO Soul Eater wasn’t worth watching so It doesn’t bother me

   Anyway Have a good day or night

   Feel free to ignore this

2. Justin on 03 Dec 2008 at 11:12 am #

   Oh wait you just fixed it, nevermind my previous comment
   Completely ignore my post now
   Hahah Way to make me seem stupid
   Oh well
   Have a good day and such

3. hmm on 03 Dec 2008 at 11:28 am #

   sadface

4. Angelo on 03 Dec 2008 at 12:13 pm #

   Wait, wait, wait… You mean every series is going to get dropped?

   (as implied by a “Yes” answer to the second question, “Does this mean you’re dropping ?”)

   Aww… And I’m such a big fan of Toradora and Ga-Rei Zero..

   Or perhaps I’ve misunderstood that? I do hope so.

   T_T

5. Fen on 03 Dec 2008 at 12:17 pm #

   Smart fans you have here.

6. af on 03 Dec 2008 at 12:18 pm #

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7. Heartofadeadpoet on 03 Dec 2008 at 12:44 pm #

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8. entidus on 03 Dec 2008 at 12:49 pm #

   Lmao, it was sarcasm. We’re not dropping anything besides Soul eater.

9. checkers on 03 Dec 2008 at 12:55 pm #

   we’ve definitely dropped Jigoku Shoujo Mitsuganae though

10. najordemon on 03 Dec 2008 at 1:28 pm #

    Best fansubbers for Soul Eater imo.

    It happened to the other fan subbers as well. Its a shame, Funimation is gonna kill it too. Though it might be something to look forward to on Adult Swim.

11. miggie on 03 Dec 2008 at 1:28 pm #

    so when do scripts come out?

12. Ceivent on 03 Dec 2008 at 1:36 pm #

    D: oh nose.

13. ??? on 03 Dec 2008 at 1:36 pm #

    Quote

    “entidus on 03 Dec 2008 at 12:49 pm #

    Lmao, it was sarcasm. We’re not dropping anything besides Soul eater.”

    r u mean u only drop Soul Eater?? If that so, its a relieve…

14. anehff9 on 03 Dec 2008 at 2:05 pm #

    Sigh..do we need to live in Japan in order to watch all those anime?
    Thank God you’re still doing ToraDora! Hopefully it’s only one season, or else they might get their hands on ToraDora as well!
    Thanks for ToraDora. And all the best.

15. Caudyr on 03 Dec 2008 at 2:11 pm #

    Toradora! is 25 episodes…I believe it was confirmed just a few days ago to be that length.

16. hyschara on 03 Dec 2008 at 2:13 pm #

    for your scripts, i WOULD turn to raw

    aero ilu

17. Paustinj on 03 Dec 2008 at 2:58 pm #

    Oh for the love of God, Fuck you Funimation. Fuck. You.

    It’s not even in America yet for Christ’s sakes.

    No seriously, I hate this fucking country and it’s goddamn bullshit.

    Why do we have to not only ruin almost every single Anime with our garbage dubbing and censoring, but get rid of the only way for people who speak English to enjoy Anime the way it was meant to be seen, free (Like ANY other television show in the whole damn world) and in Japanese.

    Fansubbers do nothing but create more fans of a show and they do it for FREE, not you like you money hungry bastards. You should be thanking them for introducing people to new shows that they would never otherwise heard of. Then when you people finally get your hands on it, they’ll support your work. (If you don’t totally ruin it)

    You guys at Aero Subs, I love what you do and I’ll always support your work. It sucks that we can’t enjoy your fantastic Soul Eater subbing anymore, but I look forward to continue enjoying the other shows you guys are working on and any future projects you choose to pursue.

    Signed,
    An Otaku

18. Angelo on 03 Dec 2008 at 3:00 pm #

    So it’s just Soul Eater then? That’s a relief…

    I still feel bad about Soul Eater though.

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20. roku on 03 Dec 2008 at 3:22 pm #

    Dude, if you actually read the letter and followed their screwed up logic, it means that every other series licensed in Japan cannot be fansubbed.

    “Though these series have not been licensed to a local distributor in North America, it is important to note that the rights owned by Japanese producers are still applicable, and enforceable, worldwide.”

    So…….. fansubbing shouldn’t even exist if you follow that logic. I think its total bullshit and they are just fucking with you. I only take solace in knowing for every group that stops subbing it, two or three new groups will start on it. Fuck you, Funimation.

21. Olia on 03 Dec 2008 at 3:22 pm #

    bugger. just before my b-day 2 of my most fav series are dropped (soul eater and one other, from different subbers).

    i think it’s rather unfair. the japanese generally do not speak english, so english subs are not dangerous to broadcasters and such. since it’s not licensed anywhere else yet, it shouldn’t be a problem…

22. Crossbone Vanguard on 03 Dec 2008 at 4:31 pm #

    # checkers on 03 Dec 2008 at 12:55 pm #

    we’ve definitely dropped Jigoku Shoujo Mitsuganae though

    ^That’s a joke right?

23. humole on 03 Dec 2008 at 5:45 pm #

    OH GOD!!!! I’M STARTING TO HATE EVEN MORE FUNIMATION !!!! I HATE THAT THEY TRY TO GET ALL THE FANSUBS AND THEY ARENT EVEN TRYING TO LICENSE IT.
    THEY JUST WANNA GET ALL THE FUCKING FANS PISSED.
    AND THE WORST PART IS THAT FANSUBS ARE BEING WATCHED BY FANS OF OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD WHERE THERE ISN’T ANY OTHER WAY TO GET ANIME.
    AND ON TOP OF THAT ALL THE ANIME THAT ITS RELEASED BY THE ITS EDITED AND CRAPPY SUBS, THEY DONT EVEN BOTHER WITH THE KARAOKE OR FINDING A GOOD FONT FOR THE ANIME.

    THIS SUCKS!!

    FUCK FUNIMATION

24. KingORoff on 03 Dec 2008 at 6:53 pm #

    “We can confirm that FUNimation Entertainment has obtained an agreement authorizing FUNimation to act on behalf of Media Factory to prevent infringement on specific titles.”

    I would personally like to see this agreement in writing - and see if Media Factory is indeed the one who authorised this pile of corporate BS. I sincerely doubt that it is - if Media Factory had an issue with the fansubs - then a Media Factory staff member should of sent the letter - not Funimation (and no - I still haven’t forgotten about DBZ you bastards).

    The reason why the vast majority of fansubs are left alone by the Japanese companies concerned (along with Japan’s government I must add) - is that it proves to give more benefit than harm. Sure - they don’t make money from it in the immediate short term; but I’m willing to bet that the vast majority of us on here has at least bought one anime series.

    Which brings up another point - one which I’ve just thought of. Companies such as Media Factory make most of their money in Japan - if we want to buy anime in our respective countries - we’d have to go through an english-dubbing reseller.

    I wonder who that could be….HMMM?!

25. YKS on 03 Dec 2008 at 7:29 pm #

    “AND THE WORST PART IS THAT FANSUBS ARE BEING WATCHED BY FANS OF OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD WHERE THERE ISN’T ANY OTHER WAY TO GET ANIME.”

    That’s true, I am not even a native english speaker. In my country there aren’t any official company that license anime, so you can’t really buy any.
    You can only:
    1. view it online / TV (that’s pretty creepy due to dub and never expect the serie you want to watch)
    2. buy it online (and pay mortal fees when they arrive / pay the exchange money because you can only pay on U$S and is devaluated… so, it is KINDA EXPENSIVE).

    But… if doing a fansub can make the fansub get flame legally, it should stop =_=

    (?)

26. Astel on 03 Dec 2008 at 7:46 pm #

    gah, sad to hear it, cuz your subs were undoubtly the best… well, guess I’ll have to find another group now or watch RAW :/
    thanks for 7th episode of Jigoku Shoujo Mitsuganae though~

27. Heppy on 03 Dec 2008 at 7:54 pm #

    i agree, you should demand to see that agreement with Media Factory in writing. Cuz FUNimation would be likely to pull some crap like that. Thinking that they can just tell people to do whatever, saying that they have the authority to, when they really dont. So dont be afraid of asking because its definitely within your right to inquire. And if they cant produce a copy than you dont have to listen to them. ^_^

28. fred on 03 Dec 2008 at 7:54 pm #

    Aww that sux. Thanks for all your work so far.
    Btw, which raws do you use for the SD version?
    cuz the other subs (demonsubs and hatsuyuki) have crappy video
    compared to yours

29. qq on 03 Dec 2008 at 8:00 pm #

    Imagine if all anime is fansubbed and downloaded for free.

    Anime studios run out of money and stop making anime. Anime scene dies. Fansubbing dies with it.

    Just a lil 2c for the people who whine about funimation enforcing legal rights.

30. Brian on 03 Dec 2008 at 8:10 pm #

    all the anime company have the right to send c&d letters on any anime. there is a counter mandate to the copyright law. If you are not using copyright material for a Profit, it will be a waste of time for the copyright owner. the only time they can sue you is if you sell them without there permission. all that letter is telling you is they don’t want to you take from their profits they can make on the anime when it comes to the US

31. Justin on 03 Dec 2008 at 8:28 pm #

    Everyone seems to forget that what you are watching is pirated, yes it aired on TV, but no you are not giving the Television station the hits it needs.
    As far as I heard The company had its arm twisted by Funi to enforce their D-rights
    8/10 time japan see fansubbers as a good thing, its a way to expand their market and fanbase as long as say, 1/20 people who watched the series illegally went out and bought it.
    And don’t bust Funis’ balls either, Lance is just doing his job, protecting the companies’ possible future investments, and heck he might be doing you guys a favour as you can be fined heavily for having copyrighted material such as pirated anime in your possession

    All we can do is thank the fansubbers for subbing it up until this point, and in that regard I thank you Aero-Subs (Even though I haven’t even watched this anime)

32. zarth4 on 03 Dec 2008 at 8:49 pm #

    If you have the cash to pay for all those animes then don’t come to me and say pirated, I have a job but most of the companies that dub or sub anime do a bad job and funimation is possibly the worse, if they put more effort in u.s. market for anime I would have the same reason I used have to pony up for anime reason why that’s why I stopped buying most anime. Plus I got soul eater from another group so it’s no skin off my back.

33. zarth4 on 03 Dec 2008 at 9:00 pm #

    Last time I remembered pirated means to sell illegal goods on the market, fansubbers don’t sell anime. I could be wrong about pirated video videos but long story short I wished distributors would do a better job and I like most animes because of the fansubbers.

34. orberon on 03 Dec 2008 at 9:04 pm #

    o well maybe i should just give it up think you guys were the last fansubbers out their fighting the Funassholes power but at lest your still doing toradora

35. zarth4 on 03 Dec 2008 at 9:11 pm #

    I think souleatersubbers is still doing it.

36. Olia on 03 Dec 2008 at 10:11 pm #

    i have to agree with above comments on FUNimation. too bad we cant boykot them or something ^^;;

    but i also wonder if they REALLY have a written permission. maybe they dont mind scanning it in for us?

37. v1cious on 03 Dec 2008 at 10:32 pm #

    there’s already a new (whom i suspect is an old) group doing the series now, so it’s not going away any time soon.

38. envyitachi89 on 03 Dec 2008 at 10:34 pm #

    Are you’ll still doing Akane iro? I hope you’ll are, I’m dieing for episode 9.

39. checkers on 03 Dec 2008 at 10:39 pm #

    nah, Akane-iro is definitely dropped too.

40. kaguzuchi on 03 Dec 2008 at 11:20 pm #

    Lol

41. narcs on 03 Dec 2008 at 11:34 pm #

    Not you, too? Goddamn it. Are there any groups doing subs for Soul Eater anymore? :\

42. Cytrus on 03 Dec 2008 at 11:57 pm #

    Not really sure what all the uproar is all about. The company doesn’t want the episodes here, alright. People will still do RAWs. Aero will still make scripts. So you can still enjoy the show fully, if after a small inconvenience.

    Anyway, thanks for your work on this and other series to this day, staff of Aero.

43. hanzo on 04 Dec 2008 at 12:11 am #

    hey there if your dropping soul eater but you still do the scripts, hmmmm . . . . . then, when will you let as download your scripts?

    im just wandering here and there . . . . .
    just to be informed

44. Cordell on 04 Dec 2008 at 12:57 am #

    Oh well they wussed out but its not that big of a loss both SEF and Demon Subs are still subbing soul eater and they have always been faster than aero subs. Also now that they have recruited more people they are producing high quality subs either the day of or the day after it comes out in Japan. So if you want soul eater and you want it fast try:

    http://www.demonsuds.com

    http://www.souleaterfan.com

    http://www.souleaterfan.org

    I listed the SEF forum page because sometimes their main site goes down and they post new episodes on the forum

45. the broken one on 04 Dec 2008 at 12:59 am #

    chances are we’ll hear of there licencing soul eater early next year since they pulled this trick with shikabane hime and sure enough about 3-4 week later they announced they had licenced it. strangely enough they now show it on there own site subbed coincidence??

46. fred on 04 Dec 2008 at 1:04 am #

    @Cordell: LOL. i just checked all 3 links, none work.

47. 00 on 04 Dec 2008 at 1:04 am #

    What? Akane-iro too? T_T

48. 00 on 04 Dec 2008 at 1:07 am #

    Demonsuds? ~_~
    the right one: http://www.demonsubs.com

49. Cordell on 04 Dec 2008 at 1:10 am #

    sorry miss spelled demon subs and http://www.souleaterfan.com is down right now but that third link is working as for demon subs try this and if it doesn’t work just google them:

    http://www.demonsubs.com

    http://www.souleaterfan.org

50. Caudyr on 04 Dec 2008 at 1:17 am #

    Maybe it’s one of the series that will be showed online shortly after release with subs come early January. Who knows…if that’s actually the case, then I can understand them doing it, lol.

51. Rawr on 04 Dec 2008 at 1:17 am #

    heh… just wait for the American economy to fail… FUNimation is goin to sink just as fast (if not faster) than any other corporate trash plaguing the country.

52. Cordell on 04 Dec 2008 at 1:29 am #

    For thoes who may not be the brightest bulbs here are instructions to the SEF forum site aka http://www.souleaterfan.org

    once you get there click either the Announcements link or welcome link then find the SITE IS DOWN link and there you have it scroll through the forum untill you find the link you want

53. Webbmaster62 on 04 Dec 2008 at 1:33 am #

    Well, since the show is not really dropped here yet, I’m sticking with Aero on the scripts. Just gotta find which RAW it is and go from there. The show is not dropped. There just not releasing the subs and video together anymore. We gotta get them separately.

54. Cordell on 04 Dec 2008 at 1:42 am #

    waste of time if you ask me

55. Cordell on 04 Dec 2008 at 2:02 am #

    SOUL EATER WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (until the series ends)

56. Tatsukun on 04 Dec 2008 at 3:54 am #

    Just wondering when you mention that you will still be releasing scripts. Will you release the AVS scripts as well or just the .ass. Doing both would be really nice because sometimes the RAW just looks bad. I could do the AVS myself but it’d be a lot easier if it was already made.

    Thanks

57. gonorrhea on 04 Dec 2008 at 4:21 am #

    L0L @ people messing with other people, who’re asking if things are being dropped. <_<

58. checkers on 04 Dec 2008 at 5:11 am #

    tatsukun: maybe, I haven’t yet decided.

59. RH on 04 Dec 2008 at 7:23 am #

    Um, people? Media Factory is known to have a standing request that their series not get fansubbed — check Anime Suki for details.

    The bit about FUNi acting as agency for the C&D letter is even simpler: translated out of legalese, it basically means, “Media Factory is borrowing FUNi’s legal department.”

    Agency, in legalese, means giving somebody the OK to go off and do stuff in your name — and as for why FUNi… Would YOU give permission to go out and do stuff in your name to somebody who lacks any reason to not screw you over? ( And those of you who would…care to buy some beachfront property in Idaho from me? )

60. RH on 04 Dec 2008 at 7:37 am #

    Ah, and I forgot: why complain about FUNi? I think at this point, if Soul Eater does get licensed, it’d be by FUNi, Viz, or Right Stuf. Any other new releases in anime right now are being done through one of those three, or by the shambling remains of ADV…and whatever else could be said for or against FUNi, they were not behind the worst dub I have ever heard nor the worst sub (translation-wise). Not only that, but they’ve been pretty decent about keeping to announced release dates — or admitting to the new ones, unlike certain companies I could name.

    …Okay, okay, Disney MIGHT pick up Soul Eater.

    ………

    Excuse me while I try to get drunk enough to forget that thought.

61. Evans on 04 Dec 2008 at 8:41 am #

    Jay now its official. All the good subbers have stopped. First Ruble then Tadashi and now Aero. GODDAMNSHIT!

    Well thank for jour efforts up until now.

    Fuck Funimation!

62. Spirit Sama on 04 Dec 2008 at 11:11 am #

    Damn and this series is soo good. *shakes fist at Funi* let just hope that 4kids doesn’t get it. …otherwise we will have another yugioh on our hands with invisible guns. I know if this keeps up no one will be intrested in non mainstream things or new things that might be better then what is out right now….

63. zephyrrz on 04 Dec 2008 at 1:55 pm #

    Enough people love this show to let it go down, and we’re still going to release translation scripts, so chances are there’s someone out there that likes our scripts and does something about it - we just can’t do anything about it ourselves because our hands are tied.

    Don’t give up hope

    Plus, if it’s not impossible, buy some stuff - (like manga etc etc - I actually believe a company is doing the manga with a decent enough translation) so that the original author can get something (even if it’s in a super indirect way :X) Though I can understand how a lot of you can’t put up with “official” subs or *shivers* dubs - and well for original stuff… shipping’s a bitch - just keep in mind that companies are companies, and companies are assholes, but companies feed their little workers so they don’t have to starve at night. >.>, and they also help keep those starving artists we like to call manga-ka from starving too much.

64. Evilx on 04 Dec 2008 at 2:57 pm #

    Thanks for ur releases i was so relived when i found u after rumbel dropped soul eater very good job will be waiting for the ass scripts please also time them with a specific raw

65. Dist on 04 Dec 2008 at 10:20 pm #

    Thanks for your efforts Aero so far. Was fun while it lasted.

    As for people whining, you can still look SEF subs, they’re quality is pretty good.. Not as great as Aero though - they don’t release in .mkv.

    There’s also ” new ” group called ” Anonymous ” ( can find on mininova example ), which obviously is one of the good subbers who have dropped Soul Eater, and are continuing releasing it under different name. So don’t worry, quality releases still exist !

    As for Aero Staff… Where’s Akane-Iro… The next ep should be out by now erm ? Or didn’t it get released last time when it was supposed to ? ( Since Eclipse doesn’t appear to have 09 released either )

66. 00 on 04 Dec 2008 at 10:50 pm #

    Aero staff….Akane-iro please….

    Thank you…

67. Louis on 04 Dec 2008 at 10:54 pm #

    Well, if the creator and owner of a work doesn’t want you to see it, you have no right to do so. There’s no entitlement there. I know a lot of people are getting pissed but… if your artist friend decided they didn’t want you to look at their sketchbook anymore, would you say “FUCK YOU MAN, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO LOOK AT YOUR SHIT”? Just a thought.

    That being said, it’s a shame to see it go. Good run guys.

68. Silverdragon15 on 04 Dec 2008 at 11:56 pm #

    *shrugs* Uh yeah, guys…fansubbing is illegal to a point. Besides, it’s not like the DVDs don’t have subs on them for the Japanese versions. You are supporting the anime market by actually buying stuff, not downloading it.

    On that note, Aero-subs, keep up the good work. Your subs are great, and we’ll miss the work on Soul Eater.

69. Touma-kun on 04 Dec 2008 at 11:59 pm #

    UGhh… Most of these responses make me sick to my stomach, but I’m not going to blend my real opinions and arguements with my trolling. Plus, I’ve gone through this so. many. times.

    In short: FUNi does have the right to send C&D Orders for this show, and that’s just the way it is. Unfortunately, that doesn’t mean it’s going to get licensed for an Official Release any time soon either. (FUNi shot down Slayers REVOLUTION earlier this year, but the series has finished, and the sequel is coming soon- Still no license announcement.)

    It’s very fortunate that Aero is still providing the scripts. That means faster releases, and you can still achieve the same result. FUNi is targeting the fansubs- not the Raw providers. If that’s too much work, more groups are definitely out there: Ones which spring up after the C&D Deployment, without a website, email, or any real way for the companies to contact them, it’s a massive endeavor to actually get a C&D Order to a valid member of these groups. If you want quality, you still have Aero’s scripts. Otherwise, with a little effort, you can still get mid-tier fansubs of Soul Eater.

    I myself, am relatively pleased. The fact FUNi is serving as the attack dog makes it probable that they’re going to be the ones to nab the license. That means I can get the entire series affordably in three thin bricks

70. The Rancorous on 05 Dec 2008 at 9:37 am #

    “FUNimation is goin to sink just as fast (if not faster) than any other corporate trash plaguing the country.”

    Yes, because you know that the production studios who make anime series’ aren’t trying to make money off of their product /end sarcasm.
    Grow the fuck up and learn how the real world works, kid. Anime studios try and milk fans for cash just as much as any other company or “evil corporation.” The way I see it; if the said “evil corporation” makes good products, I’ll be glad to throw them money in exchange for it.
    Also, if you’re living in America, then you are downright stupid for hoping these corporate trash companies sink. If they do, then your mommy and daddy might have to cancel that high-speed internet your using to download anime. Hell, you might even have to get a job yourself. Hmmm… maybe that’ll be a growing experience for you…

    “Damn and this series is soo good. *shakes fist at Funi*”

    Uhh, did you even read the letter? Funi did this because they were asked to do so by the creators of the series. So your fist-shaking “boo-hoo, I can’t get it for free anymore, woe is me” bullshit should be directed at them, not Funi. And this goes for everyone bitching at Funi; believe it or not, anime studios do NOT intend their products (aka: anime series’) to be distributed without making a profit. Is it unfortunate? Sure it is. Do we have a right to bitch about being told to stop doing something that is clearly illegal in the first place? No way in hell.

    “Besides, it’s not like the DVDs don’t have subs on them for the Japanese versions.”

    Exactly. Unfortunately, they’ll be saying bullshit like “but the translation is crap!”
    “Oh, so you fluently speak both Japanese and English?”
    “Uhh, no… but I learned through fansubs!”
    An argument that is so stupid it isn’t even laughable. Now, I am not down-grading fansubbers; they obviously know enough about both languages to give adequate translations. But, this argument comes from people who do NOT know both languages and are just blowing steam out of their asses.

    “But, you’re downloading fansubs yourself! Hypocrite!”
    Yeah, but the wall of liscensed DVDs sitting right next to me as well as the 95% anime Netflix renting and multi-gig XBOX-Live downloads of anime along with the 4-walls of posters and wall-scrolls as well as the fact that nothing I download is either liscensed nor has it had C&D letters sent out about it supports your argument. Yes, I like fansubs; but if a studio wants fansubbing of their series to stop, I know that I have no right to bitch about it and will drop it right there. I mean, do you really have a right to bitch about not getting a luxury for free? I sure hope not…

    I felt compelled to say all of this, but unfortunately, I probably fall upon deaf and VERY ignorrant ears.

71. None on 05 Dec 2008 at 3:24 pm #

    @The Rancorous

    You’re not any better. Stop trying to be. Rich criminal scum

72. Aro on 06 Dec 2008 at 11:29 pm #

    I’d just buy the original DVDs and ask someone to sub ‘em for me, or learn Japanese.

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74. anon on 07 Dec 2008 at 7:57 pm #

    I thought they don’t allow the release of the script either, Tadashi did the same as just releasing the script, then they got another C&D.

75. Clickme on 07 Dec 2008 at 8:25 pm #

    Rancorous,
    To spare my boredom I decided to read this wall of text. I thought maybe, just maybe, someone would have a great argument. On the contrary it was all but that. While the points created were agreeable, your outtake is clearly hypocritical. Taking on the perspective of an active supporter towards the licensing issue then stating that..

    “Yeah, but the wall of liscensed DVDs sitting right next to me as well as the 95% anime Netflix renting and multi-gig XBOX-Live downloads of anime along with the 4-walls of posters and wall-scrolls as well as the fact that nothing I download is either liscensed nor has it had C&D letters sent out about it…”

    Clearly is not as thought out as you thought it to be. What specifically caught my eye was this part to attack people who cried out hypocrite.

    “the fact that nothing I download is either liscensed nor has it had C&D letters sent out about it supports your argument.”

    Disregarding the fact that you fail to justify how it is perfectly “ok” in terms to have these because it is not yet or perhaps never to be licensed by an American partner or the area you live in. Regardless of it’s status on being licensed it was never “ok” to download these anime or material. (BTW Posting on this site has already confirmed my point without the WallOfText)

    Please feel free to reply Rancorous if I misjudged or misunderstood some points. I would of went more in depth, but that would make the tl;dr comments come out (even though they will anyway with this xD

76. lolwut? on 08 Dec 2008 at 5:28 pm #

    The DMCA allows companies t0 regulate what can and can’t be freely distributed/recorded as data. The problem is the slippery slope aspect of this. What is data? It is simply the recording of information no matter the form. Yes it is just a short hop to regulating thought (also just recorded data). Also “piracy” is not what any fansub group does. In fact given the proper deffinitions of the words fansub groups and anyone who hosts a free torrent is donating to other people. Piracy requires profit and/or intent to profit. Companies and courts today would rather try to destroy the true essense of the information age to survive rather than adapt to it. I call shenanigans.

77. Azagroth on 09 Dec 2008 at 9:24 am #

    Quick lowdown on all the FUNimation C&D crap, 1. They’re complete idiots who think they can scare people with their C&D orders, 2. The only purpose they have if you seen that whole speech that dipshit gave at AnimeExpo 2008 was to abolish fansubbing. 3. Waiting for someone to call them on their bluff and sue the bastards for falsifying legal documents (IE A fansub group got a C&D order from FUNimation acting on behalf of a company in japan to stop and remove the stuff, etc… Although being stupid enough to target an anime that is part of the VIZ Media LLC group) 4. With the rep that they have it makes perfect sense why companies like VIZ, Genon, and Teki Animation have decided to start doing their own subs for shows and releasing them free on the net shortly after the episode airs in Japan (cause lets be real about this, how many people would know even 1/50th of the stuff that’s air’d in Japan without fansubbers - not like the NA distributors are gonna pick everyone of the shows up)

78. anon on 09 Dec 2008 at 9:26 am #

    FUNimation don’t dub anime’s, they create cartoons out of them.

79. dk on 09 Dec 2008 at 10:40 am #

    sounds like they are trying hard to integrate anime into Disneyland =D

80. Artics on 09 Dec 2008 at 10:00 pm #

    First Hitman Reborn and now Soul Eater….
    i begin to dislike FUNimation more and more these days.

81. Azagroth on 09 Dec 2008 at 10:40 pm #

    Need to correct a small error I made in my last comment, it’s Toei Animation not Teki Animation (And the anime i was referring to that got the C&D was Hitman Reborn - *D-Rights owns the Japanese copyright and they are a member of the VIZ Media LLC group)

82. Anom on 10 Dec 2008 at 12:16 am #

    Can someone update the Project page to reflect that Soul Eater is dropped?

83. orberon on 10 Dec 2008 at 3:21 am #

    you know what seeing how alot of people are pissed at those fun basterd i wonder what they would do if we took ever reply on ever fansubber site of angry letters and hacked into the ceo’s email and spamed it with the letters but never mind me just being alittle evil cuss i know i will never see soul eater up here in the north

84. Anon on 10 Dec 2008 at 1:09 pm #

    You don’t need to drop this, it hasn’t been licensed, so they have NO right to send you a C&D, fucking dumb asses -__-.

85. phoenixdomino on 11 Dec 2008 at 4:00 am #

    http://funimation.biz/
    If anyone wants to check out this site for Soul Eater downloads, try not to foam at the mouth. If the link doesn’t work copy and paste it to your browser.

86. rofl on 12 Dec 2008 at 4:13 am #

    ^^^^^
    rofl

87. Azagroth on 12 Dec 2008 at 8:09 pm #

    Oh how gay, FUN decided to finally jump on the VIZ wagon with offering now airing episodes in Japan subbed and actually say something bout fans for the fans when they are the ones who actually stated that fansubbers where the ones who are destroying anime. Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t that what fansubbers do “Subbing by fans for fans”

88. Touma-kun on 13 Dec 2008 at 1:12 am #

    ^^^

    FUNi did it first, with Skikabane-hime.

89. Anonymous on 13 Dec 2008 at 10:30 am #

    Are you dumb asses?

    funimation.biz is run by Dais, an /a/ tripfag.
    He’s doing it to piss of Funimation because of all the C&Ds they’re sending out.

    Dumb shits -___-

90. haha on 13 Dec 2008 at 5:43 pm #

    lol the “.biz” should have been the give away ┐(’～`；)┌

91. Azagroth on 16 Dec 2008 at 11:03 pm #

    now that’s just funny wonder how long it would take someone to mock FUN in that sort of fashion

92. Coramar on 17 Dec 2008 at 4:30 am #

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    Personally, FUNi makes bad CARTOONS out of good anime. I’ve been watching anime for the last 25 years. Yes, old fogey at 28. FUNi has by far been one of the worst companies in North America to release dubbed anime. Though I don’t speak Japanese, I understand nearly everything I hear. You don’t need to speak Japanese to understand it and once you learn the basic word forms and trash words, it’s actually easy to understand.

    Anyway, back onto the subject. I used to hate watching dubbed anime that was released on NA television. It mostly sucked and was badly translated. It didn’t matter much when I was still a small child, but once I could understand what I was hearing and then later getting ahold of subbed copies of the anime I grew up watching, I realized that dubbing companies could care less. All those companies wanted was the money that people would pay to own an exotic import.

    In the mid to late 80s, anime was decently dubbed. I remember watching Akira late one night on HBO and it was decently done. A couple of years ago I bought the 25th Anniversary edition DVD and found that the company that had first translated it had actually done a fairly good job. That got me to checking other dubbed versions of anime I had aquired over the years. It left me puzzled and pissed.

    FUNi, I found, only wanted to censor and sugar coat what they termed ‘kid shows’. My one shining example, Naruto. I got into it after I learned that it was going to be released in the US. I decided to watch a fansubbed version of it before watching it on Cartoon Network. After watching the fansubbed version and then later that week watching the Episode One on CN, I was so pissed that I nearly drove to Atlanta to tear the heads off the CEOs in charge. I was so disappointed that I swore off watching anything else dubbed by the company. I was later horrified to learn that they had bought the licenses to dubb more anime from several companies in Japan that had only been released to the television stations a few months prior and in some cases a few weeks prior.

    A couple of years or so before the Naruto fiasco, I had become immersed in the fansubbing communities around the Web. I was an active member of a large anime community, of which I am still active, and was enjoying the hundreds of anime that hadn’t been released in the US. Then the first disaster struck.

    Someone had been selling fansubbed anime over several sites based in the US. And as most things go, it started with hentai titles and later trickled down. ADV and it’s sub companies sent out C&Ds. Our huge anime collections were soon pared down to nearly a third of what it had been in less than 4 months. That one incident started the fight between fansubbers who only wanted to bring a new series to fans of the multiple genres and the licensing companies in North America and Japan and later around the world. All because one greedy bastard decided to make a profit. This is what the C&Ds come down to.

    I don’t blame the companies in Japan. I blame outside licensing companies. With the sucess of an anime in Japan, i.e. Naruto, the companies put out feelers into the Web communites to judge how well the series will be recieved in other countries. One of those ways has been through fansubbers. Some of the more popular animes that had multiple language subs were soon issued C&D orders from the licensing companies that the Japanese studios had decided to use for distribution. Needless to say, the outside licensing companies were overjoyed and were soon busy speed dubbing the series they had aquired, regardless of the bad translations and censoring.

    And don’t come at me about knowing bad translations from good ones. I think I know what I hear and then having to watch the badly dubbed crap to know the difference. It’s the one reason I refuse to buy anything from the North American distributors and instead order directly from Japan. I buy as much as I watch, when I can afford to and when it becomes available. I never buy a series until I have seen quite a bit of it.

    I may come off as a hypocrite, but I am honest about what I do and how I do it. If you don’t like it, bugger off. Otherwise, yes, I love anime and will continue to support fansubs until they are either destroyed or the world ends. And buying the anime that I like when they become available in Japan. In the meantime, I will be using my contacts in Japan to verify C&Ds that various companies have been sending out.

    One, I don’t trust continually forewarded emails. Two, I want to know if the C&D was issued from the parent company or if the said C&D issuer is fraudulently taking the parent company name to remove as many fansub groups as they can to heighten profits for when they are granted the distribution rights.

    So for those that whine about FUNi, why don’t you go and kick the rear of the person that started this mess to begin with? Whining about ONE company isn’t going to make them stop. Though I am partial to taking the CEO’s head for making an otherwise peaceful thing into a stupid controversial and multinational thing.

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93. failure kills me on 17 Dec 2008 at 7:19 am #

    if i were a member of aero, i would talk to my fellow staff if they really want to continue fansubbing this series. we’ll just make a new group name wo taggin any website info to the rls or where it came from.

    do what shs guys have been doing for ages whenever a series they fansubbed got licensed, they rls their fansub in their other name syndicate or other name they have used. that way theres no way funimation can send C&D to.

94. Izzy on 29 Dec 2008 at 2:54 am #

    Those funimation guys are jerks !!!! probably someone who downloads anime and works for an animation company!! JERKS !! I hate them now. I used to love them because they brought the FMA movie to DVD but seriously !! UGH it just make me so mad to see those jerks do something like this.
    yhea i mean i don’t even watch soul eater but whatever i mean !! ugh 11

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